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.41 Swiss
File:Vetterli Cartridge.JPG
10.4x38mmR cartridge
Type Rifle
Place of origin Flag of Switzerland.svg  Switzerland
Service history
Used by Swiss Army
Production history
Produced 1869–1889[1]
Bullet diameter .415 in (10.5 mm)
Neck diameter .437 in (11.1 mm)
Shoulder diameter .518 in (13.2 mm)
Base diameter .540 in (13.7 mm)
Rim diameter .630 in (16.0 mm)
Case length 1.60 in (41 mm)
Overall length 2.20 in (56 mm)
Primer type rimfire
Ballistic performance
Bullet weight/type Velocity Energy
334 gr (22 g) 1,345 ft/s (410 m/s) 1,330 ft·lbf (1,800 J)
Source(s): Barnes & Amber 1972

The .41 Swiss (officially the 10.4x38mm R Swiss Vetterli M69/81) is a .415 in (10.54 mm) Swiss military rimfire rifle cartridge.


In 1867, the Swiss military adopted the 10.4×38mm cartridge. As one of the few rimfire cartridges to see military service, the 313 grain bullet and 1,400 fps muzzle velocity was respectable compared to its contemporaries. The most popular arms chambered for this round were the Vetterli series of rifles. This type of round was also used in the 1867 Peabody.[2] Adopted in 1869 along with the Vetterli turn-bolt rifle, it was discontinued, along with the rifle, in 1889. With a 334 gr (21.6 g; 0.76 oz) bullet, it is "barely adequate" for deer, and only at short range.[1]

The original round's case was made from copper which held a round nosed lead bullet. In 1871 and 1878, the paper patch was improved, but ballistic performance was only marginally improved.

A rimfire version of the round continued to be commercially available in the U.S. until 1942.[1]

See alsoEdit


  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 Barnes, p.196, "10.4x38R Swiss Vetterli M69/81".
  2. "Swiss Handguns 1882". Retrieved 2016-03-05. 


  • Barnes, Frank C., ed. by John T. Amber. ".25 Short", in Cartridges of the World, pp.196 & 205. Northfield, IL: DBI Books, 1972. ISBN 0-695-80326-3.

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